On the eve of the release of Before The Frost, Black Crowes vocalist and founding member Chris Robinson gave us a little insight into this hugely ambitious project.
OneMetal:What made you choose Levon Helmâs place to make the record?
Chris Robinson:That kinda happened after the concept of doing something different in terms of size, of vastness, and something that included the live idea in front of our audience. By vastness, I mean being able to do a lot more songs.
On the Warpaint tour, we went back to Woodstock for a little break, and I ran into someone who works for Levon, at the health food store in town â if youâre a hippie, you have to go to the health food store in Woodstock, or the police come to your house and question your motives. Levonâs Rambles were definitely on my radar, and we just lucked out that it was happening that weekend. We went down for the show, and I was just blown away. I sat in that night. We had so much fun, and the whole idea of it was something that I felt fit with the Black Crowesâ aesthetic, on a lot of levels.
OneMetal:Was it the intimacy, the vibe in that room?
Chris Robinson:A lot of it was just the logistics of what we were trying to pull off. To me, it was âall these things at onceâ â itâs a studio during the day, and then at night they can reconfigure it to have it be a small concert venue. That was a perfect way for us to learn the material.
The other aspect that was appealing to me is that itâs off the grid, in a way. Thatâs part of who we are and what weâve always been. Itâs something that feels handmade â Levon built it himself, and he doesnât use promoters, and thereâs none of the typical inner workings of the business.
Which is fine, but those are also the things that have diluted the rock ânâ roll experience for people. People want to see music, and be a part of things, and then they go to concerts and theyâre burdened by rules.
The setting, of course, is the third attraction. Because youâre in this beautiful barn. Itâs Levonâs home as well as a place to make music, and heâs such a unique, warm and generous, one-of-a-kind musician. Heâs also that as a person.
OneMetal:OK, so itâs a great studio. Why bring the audience in? What does that do for you?
Chris Robinson:The thing that makes this band what it is, is having the audience there. Because weâre not a pop band, and weâre not a corporate band, and we have very little presence in the modern cultural, corporate whatever. Thatâs the kind of people we are, and thatâs the kind of music we make. Itâs going to benefit a group of weirdos like that.
We made Warpaint in Woodstock, in a different studio up the street, in a rural place on a mountain, private, and it was perfect to get our group together on the same page.
I was definitely inspired to get into even a more rootsy place, in terms of country, bluegrass, country blues and soul music. Stuff that weâve always been inspired by, but I think, in this term, something to really sink into. Especially with this time and age. Just how we feel about it. It seems like thatâs the best way to express those things.
In our case, I also thought it was good for the band as well, in terms of the story of the band. Sort of a living narrative or somethin.â
The people that were there, we didnât have the random âHey, I havenât seen the Black Crowes in a while ⌠I got nothing else to do tonight,â these were hardcore Crowe people whoâve been to numerous shows.
So for us, having the audience there doesnât make it harder, it just adds a certain level of focus. This was more about immediate communication and response with these people, who are waiting to hear what your new work sounds like. You canât manipulate that dynamic.
And we didnât want to do something fake. It wasnât going to be like some VH-1 TV show.
OneMetal:Itâs been 20 years since the first Black Crowes album. Your thoughts on this anniversary?
Chris Robinson:Even though weâve been through stuff that on the outside looks gratuitous or silly or wasted or whatever, this has been IT for us. We were one group that even as young people, we took responsibility for ourselves. If we fucked something up, we didnât blame it on anything else. And thatâs why we always had such problems with the internal workings of different systematic, corporation-driven, derivative music.
The tradition that we get to live in is very humbling. The idea that we have kept an audience thatâs a part of our world, and part of our scene, that keeps growing and changing with us, thatâs another thing that very little times is talked about in the music business. âThe pursuit of relevancyâ is like the dumbest thing Iâve ever heard in my life. Thatâs just fashion, and keeping up with the Joneses – Itâs product and itâs safe.
The music business is stumbling along these days â you can hear the death rattle â and for us, thatâs kinda cool, because weâve always been self-sufficient. And weâll always have an idea, and always a way to do it that benefits the dynamic of this group.
I think thatâs a little bit of what makes a milestone like 20 years exciting. At the end of the day, the way weâve had to do it is the way weâve had to do it, and thatâs made us stronger. Thatâs the reason that weâre here.
Before the Frost is available now as an individual CD, and it including a unique Internet code allowing listeners to download Until the Freeze for free.
Date : 31 August 2009
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Mark Dryden says:
Wow – a surprisingly humble and down earth artist. Shame they dropped off (my) radar really, but I’m having an enjoyable morning going from their collection on Spotify. Nice one!
Mark Wrigley says:
You need to check out the new album mate… exceptionally raw and intimate.
David Cox says:
An excellent interview for its insightful nature!
I’ve been a Black Crowes fan for longer than I would care to remember (I think I was 7 when Shake Your Money Maker came out) but it’s definitely time to get back into the swing of their thing…